1804-1897 Carl St, Saint Paul MN

234 properties and 1224 residents found on Carl St, Saint Paul, MN. Find out more information with SpamRoom Address Directory.


Carl St, Saint Paul MN street index

Block Buildings Properties Businesses Residents
1600-1799 1618-1799 166 5 906
1800-1899 1804-1897 35 7 188
1900+ 1900-11619 30 6 129

Residents

Alternative address: 1804 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5203

  • 2 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1924

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Julie M Hughes
763-588-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Jason Leclaire Age: 49
Residential status:
Homeowner
Julie M Leclaire Age: 48
Residential status:
Homeowner
Timothy J Sullivan Age: 62
651-647-****

Alternative address: 1807 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5204

  • 2 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 0.25 acres
  • Built in 1936

Facts

Lot size: 0.25 acres

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Kate Croteau
Residential status:
Homeowner
Marguerite Croteau Age: 108
651-645-****
Phil Croteau
651-645-****
Mary E Croteau Age: 70
651-485-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations
William E Croteau Age: 75
651-485-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Craftsman/Blue Collar

Alternative address: 1808 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5203

  • 2 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1941

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 6

Stories: 1 story with attic and basement

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Heather A Diedtrich
651-917-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Administrative Support Occupations, Including Clerical Occupations
Shawn G Diedtrich Age: 54
763-533-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Administrative Support Occupations, Including Clerical Occupations
Laurie C Lindblad Age: 70
651-646-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Administration/Managerial
Shawn Norman
Residential status:
Renter
Job:
Production Occupations

Alternative address: 1809 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5204

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Jolene E Blaser
651-917-****
Rachelle Endres
Residential status:
Renter
Job:
Production Occupations
Colleen G Forte Age: 82
651-917-****
David G Forte Age: 86
651-917-****
Jason D Forte Age: 53
651-917-****
  • 4 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 6,098 sqft
  • Built in 1964

Facts

Lot size: 6,098 sqft

Rooms: 7

Stories: 2 story with basement

Exterior walls: Stucco

Parking: Detached Garage

Sold $425,000

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Jolene E Blaser
651-221-****
Mary B Blaser Age: 62
651-221-****
Heather Hirsch Age: 62
763-784-****
Neal G Kentch Age: 69
651-645-****
Mary M Knutsen Age: 74
651-645-****

Alternative address: 1812 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5203

  • 2 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1936

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 6

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

For Sale $299,900

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Gina Delsignore
651-207-****
Brian M Lopez Age: 55
651-207-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Craftsman/Blue Collar
Regina Lopez Age: 54
651-207-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Regina M Delsignore Age: 59
651-631-****
Jeffrey J Fox

Alternative address: 1816 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5203

  • 2 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1924

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Joseph A Hughes
651-644-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Precision Production Occupations
Julie M Hughes Age: 48
Kyle J Hughes Age: 52
651-276-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Mavis R Hughes Age: 72
651-260-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Precision Production Occupations
Diane L Melander Age: 52

Alternative address: 1819 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5204

  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 9,148 sqft
  • Built in 1916

Facts

Lot size: 9,148 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Industry:
Nonclassifiable Establishments
See Details
Justina Christiansen Age: 48
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Clerical/White Collar
Brooke Eastburn
Jeff A Mccloskey Age: 68
651-647-****
Jeffrey A Mccloskey Age: 68
651-647-****
  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1948

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with attic and basement

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Industry:
Membership Organization
See Details
Tony Andretta
651-644-****
Robert B Arnold Age: 107
651-645-****
Elizabeth M Duncan
Phoebe Madden

Alternative address: 1822 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5203

  • 4 beds
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1968

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 6

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Stucco

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Gilmore J Sem
651-645-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Retired
Virginia L Sem Age: 84
651-645-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Administrative Support Occupations, Including Clerical Occupations

Alternative address: 1823 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5204

  • 2 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1926

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Attached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Gerald Allan Brandt
N A Brandt Age: 52
Nicholas A Brandt
651-917-****
Dennis L Craven
651-645-****
Katherine A Mcintyre Age: 49
651-643-****

Alternative address: 1827 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5204

  • 2 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 7,841 sqft
  • Built in 1940

Facts

Lot size: 7,841 sqft

Rooms: 8

Stories: 2 story with basement

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Parking: Detached Garage

1827 Carl St, Saint Paul, MN 55113-5204
Sold $194,251

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Lucille M Clemmensen
Residential status:
Homeowner
Jim Lindkuist
James A Lindkvist Age: 61
651-644-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Private Household Service Occupations
John A Lindkvist Age: 93
651-644-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
P L Lindkvist Age: 93
651-644-****

Alternative address: 1828 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5203

  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1925

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with attic and basement

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

1828 Carl St, Saint Paul, MN 55113-5203
Sold $330,000

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Bruce P Gleason
651-485-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Retired
Larry J Koehler Age: 76
651-646-****

Alternative address: 1832 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5203

  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1924

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with attic and basement

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Parking: Detached Garage

Sold $210,000

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Industry:
Business Association
See Details
Dan Bauman
651-330-****
Tony Bauman
651-330-****
Caralynn A Blau Age: 47
Coreen B Blau

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Industry:
Eating Place
See Details
  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 7,841 sqft
  • Built in 1921

Facts

Lot size: 7,841 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
651-245-****
Industry:
Single-Family House Construction
Site:
crowleyconstructionmn.com
See Details
Charles S Chacra
Tammie L Chacra Age: 67
651-644-****
Kia A Davis Age: 49
651-644-****
G L Demars Age: 102
651-644-****
  • 2 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 10,454 sqft
  • Built in 1922

Facts

Lot size: 10,454 sqft

Rooms: 6

Stories: 1 story with attic and basement

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

For Sale $179,900

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Barbara A Derosier

Alternative address: 1839 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5204

  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1933

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 7

Stories: 1 story with attic and basement

Exterior walls: Stucco

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Diana W Buck
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Professional/Technical
Jeffrey M Buck Age: 46
651-494-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Darryl E Krueger Age: 79
651-649-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Executive, Administrative, and Managerial Occupations
  • 2 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1928

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Stucco

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Dom Bilotta
Carol A Caywood Age: 56
651-644-****
Dennis D Caywood Age: 75
651-644-****
Janet K Caywood Age: 75
651-644-****
Clara Koennecke
651-646-****
  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1956

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Detached Garage

For Sale $315,000

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Mary E Gunsch
651-645-****
Mary E Herbst Age: 62
651-645-****
Rodger L Herbst Age: 98
651-645-****
Ruth N Herbst Age: 97
651-645-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Production Occupations
Scott R Herbst Age: 63
651-645-****
  • 5 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 7,841 sqft
  • Built in 1915

Facts

Lot size: 7,841 sqft

Rooms: 8

Stories: 2 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Detached Garage

Sold $288,000

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Jose Cox
651-917-****
Joseph R Cox Age: 53
651-917-****
Mayken S Cox
651-917-****
Leroy M Petersen Age: 74
651-644-****
Mary K Petersen
651-644-****

Alternative address: 1851 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5204

  • 1 bed
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 5,227 sqft
  • Built in 1924

Facts

Lot size: 5,227 sqft

Rooms: 4

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Kurt W Isaacson
L Lemire
651-917-****
Leanne G Lemire Age: 75
651-917-****
Eric Peterson Age: 34
Dean Prince Age: 77
651-645-****
  • 4 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 7,841 sqft
  • Built in 1952

Facts

Lot size: 7,841 sqft

Rooms: 6

Stories: 1 story with attic and basement

Exterior walls: Brick

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Thomas W Johnston
Residential status:
Homeowner
  • 2 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 10,454 sqft
  • Built in 1923

Facts

Lot size: 10,454 sqft

Rooms: 7

Stories: 1 story with attic and basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Stephen J Harty
Gerald P Messing Age: 61
763-682-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Executive, Administrative, and Managerial
Jennifer R Messing Age: 52
651-644-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Professional/Technical
Jerry P Messing Age: 61
651-644-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Richard Messing
651-644-****

Alternative address: 1860 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5203

  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 10,454 sqft
  • Built in 1915

Facts

Lot size: 10,454 sqft

Rooms: 6

Stories: 1 story with attic and basement

Exterior walls: Stucco

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Peter L Mcswiggen
651-645-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Professional/Technical
Barbara J Meier Age: 76
651-645-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Machine Operators, Assemblers, and Inspectors Occupations
Peter L Meier
651-645-****
  • 2 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 6,970 sqft
  • Built in 1959

Facts

Lot size: 6,970 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Air conditioning: Central

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Delores A Beck
651-631-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Retired
William Beck

Alternative address: 1869 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5101

  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 6,970 sqft
  • Built in 1959

Facts

Lot size: 6,970 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Evelyn Howell
Residential status:
Renter
Job:
Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations
Karen M Klein
Karen Rogers
651-491-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Sales Occupations
Maxine N Rogers Age: 88
651-491-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Sales Occupations
Robert Allen Rogers Age: 62
  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 9,148 sqft
  • Built in 1959

Facts

Lot size: 9,148 sqft

Rooms: 4

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Stucco

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Adam J Lehner
651-631-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Clifford J Lehner Age: 96
651-631-****
Stacey Lehner
651-631-****
Doris M Lehner Age: 87
651-491-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Construction and Extraction Occupations
Mark Lehner
651-491-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Construction and Extraction Occupations

Alternative address: 1886 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5102

  • 4 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 9,148 sqft
  • Built in 1959

Facts

Lot size: 9,148 sqft

Rooms: 8

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Attached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Erica C Ahlstrom
Julian P Bermann
Alan G Blat
651-636-****
Allan G Blat
651-636-****
Allen G Blat Age: 91
651-636-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
  • 2 beds
  • 1 bath
  • Lot: 9,148 sqft
  • Built in 1960

Facts

Lot size: 9,148 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Underground/Basement

1891 Carl St, Saint Paul, MN 55113-5101
Sold $259,090

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Guido Becker
Helen M Becker Age: 107
Jay Becker
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations
Don Leedy
651-636-****
Mary M Webster
651-636-****

Alternative address: 1892 Carl St, Lauderdale, MN 55113-5102

  • 4 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 9,583 sqft
  • Built in 1960

Facts

Lot size: 9,583 sqft

Rooms: 6

Stories: 1 story with attic and basement

Exterior walls: Siding (Alum/Vinyl)

Parking: Attached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Scott M Henderson
651-633-****
Scott M Thompson Age: 44
651-633-****
Danette A Wittenberg Age: 53
651-633-****
Waynette E Wittenberg Age: 73
651-633-****
Amy R Kadrmas

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Jason Elliott
  • 4 beds
  • 2 baths
  • Lot: 9,583 sqft
  • Built in 1960

Facts

Lot size: 9,583 sqft

Rooms: 7

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Attached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Huai C Chiang
Jason W Elliott Age: 51
651-633-****
Tiffany Granone
651-414-****
Angela G Lundgren Age: 47
Angie G Lundgren
  • 3 beds
  • Lot: 9,148 sqft
  • Built in 1959

Facts

Lot size: 9,148 sqft

Rooms: 5

Stories: 1 story with basement

Exterior walls: Wood

Parking: Detached Garage

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
651-635-****
Categories:
Coffee & Tea Wholesale & Manufacturers
Industry:
Whol Groceries
See Details
Paul L Picard Age: 64
651-635-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Peiju B Picard Age: 64
651-635-****
Peiju Pickard Age: 79
651-635-****
Donald Royal Ellis Age: 102
612-631-****

Market Activities

To date, we have no information about market activities in 2025
Mar 2024 Listed for sale
1836 Carl St
Price history :
  • Single Family
  • 922 sqft
  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
Nov 2023 Sold
1811 Carl St
Price history :
  • Duplex
  • 1,974 sqft
Jul 2022 Sold
1828 Carl St
Price history :
  • Single Family
  • 882 sqft
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
Jun 2022 Listed for sale
1843 Carl St
Price history :
  • Single Family
  • 1,700 sqft
  • 4 beds
  • 2 baths
Feb 2022 Sold
1832 Carl St
Price history :
  • Single Family
  • 1,067 sqft
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
Jan 2022 Listed for sale
1812 Carl St
Price history :
  • Single Family
  • 1,601 sqft
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
Aug 2021 Sold
1828 Carl St
Price history :
  • Single Family
  • 882 sqft
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
Jun 2021 Sold
1828 Carl St
Price history :
  • Single Family
  • 882 sqft
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
Mar 2021 Sold
1844 Carl St
Price history :
  • Single Family
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
Nov 2017 Sold
1843 Carl St
Price history :
  • 1,114
  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
Nov 2017 Recent Rent
1835 Carl St
Price history :
  • 940 sqft
  • 2 beds
  • 1 bath
Oct 2017 Sold
1843 Carl St
Price history :
  • 1,396
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
Oct 2017 Sold
1843 Carl St
Price history :
  • 1,396
  • 3 beds
  • 2 baths
Sep 2017 Sold
1891 Carl St
Price history :
  • 1,296
  • 2 beds
  • 2 baths
Jul 2016 Recent Rent
1819 Carl St
Price history :
  • 1160 sqft
  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath

This cute house is located in a friendly neighborhood with easy access to freeways. House is...

May 2016 Sold
1819 Carl St
Price history :
  • Single-Family Home
  • 1,160 sqft
  • 9,147 sqft
  • 3 beds
  • 1 bath
Nov 2015 Sold
1827 Carl St
Price history :
  • Single-Family Home
  • 1,460 sqft
  • 7,841 sqft
  • 2 beds
  • 2 baths

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Fire Incident History

To date, we have no information about fire incidents in 2025
07 Oct 2018 Building fires
Property Use —
1 or 2 family dwelling
Area of Origin —
Laundry area, wash house (laundry)
First Ignition —
Electrical wire, cable insulation
Heat Source —
Arcing
15 Sep 2017 Building fires
Property Use —
1 or 2 family dwelling
Area of Origin —
Cooking area, kitchen
24 Apr 2012 Building fires
Property Use —
Outbuilding or shed
Area of Origin —
Storage area, other
First Ignition —
Exterior wall covering or finish
Heat Source —
Hot or smoldering object, other
04 Jun 2009 Brush, or brush and grass mixture fire
Property Use —
Open land or field
Area of Origin —
Outside area, other
First Ignition —
Light vegetation - not crop, including grass
Heat Source —
Multiple heat sources including multiple ignitions

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Incidents registered in Federal Emergency Management Agency

To date, we have no information about incidents registered in FEMA in 2025
05 Apr 2015 Cooking fire, confined to container
Property Use —
Multifamily dwellings
20 Feb 2015 Cooking fire, confined to container
Property Use —
Multifamily dwellings
28 Sep 2014 Cooking fire, confined to container
Property Use —
Multifamily dwellings
06 Sep 2014 Unauthorized burning
Property Use —
1 or 2 family dwelling

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Crime Incidents History

To date, we have no information about crime incidents in 2025
12 Mar 2016 Community Policing
1600 Block Carl St, Saint Paul MN
Case Number —
16007046
Description —
Welfare Check
05 Sep 2014 Other
1600 Block Carl St, Saint Paul MN
Case Number —
14022859
Description —
Assist Other Agency
22 Jan 2013 Other
1600 Block Carl St, Saint Paul MN
Case Number —
13001993
Description —
Assist Other Agency

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House prices on 1804-1897 Carl St, Saint+Paul MN

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Total rooms, bathrooms and bedrooms on 1804-1897 Carl St, Saint+Paul MN

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Lot size and building area (in sqft) on 1804-1897 Carl St, Saint+Paul MN

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