17804-18196 Deer Hill Rd, Middletown CA

319 properties and 873 residents found on Deer Hill Rd, Middletown, CA. Find out more information with SpamRoom Address Directory.


Deer Hill Rd, Middletown CA street index

Block Buildings Properties Businesses Residents
1900-17799 1919-17797 52 2 77
17800-18199 17804-18196 54 13 146
18200-18599 18217-18599 52 10 148

Residents

Alternative address: 17804 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8126

  • 3 beds
  • 3 baths
  • Lot: 1,898 sqft
  • Built in 1991

Facts

Parking: Garage

17804 Deer Hill Rd, Middletown, CA 95467-8126
Sold $400,000

Who has lived here

Resident Phone Number Additional info
Industry:
Business Services at Non-Commercial SiteNonclassifiable Establishments
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Mary Hill
Renee Hill
Thomas Hill
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Executive, Administrative, and Managerial
Barabara Sinor Age: 79
707-987-****
Residential status:
Homeowner
Job:
Clerical/White Collar

    Alternative address: 17818 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8126

    • 3 beds
    • 1 bath
    • Lot: 1,780 sqft
    • Built in 1989

    Who has lived here

    Resident Phone Number Additional info
    Michael A Tomko
    707-987-****
    Mike Tomko Age: 64
    707-987-****
    Sean Tomko
    707-987-****
    Patricia A Tomko Age: 63
    626-757-****
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Job:
    Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations
    Patti Tomko
    707-987-****

    Alternative address: 17825 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8126

    • 3 beds
    • 2 baths
    • Lot: 1,442 sqft
    • Built in 1990

    Who has lived here

    Resident Phone Number Additional info
    Industry:
    Social Services
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    James Birk
    707-987-****
    Richard P Birk Age: 86
    707-987-****
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Angela C Whitman Age: 80
    707-987-****
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Marcus Whitman
    707-987-****

    Alternative address: 17832 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8126

    • 4 beds
    • 2 baths
    • Lot: 1,798 sqft
    • Built in 1986

    Who has lived here

    Resident Phone Number Additional info
    Industry:
    Insurance Agent/Broker
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    Nola Brown
    707-987-****
    Cynthia Lepore Age: 41
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Frank S Lepore Age: 82
    707-987-****
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Job:
    Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations
    Linda D Lepore Age: 78
    707-987-****

    Alternative address: 17839 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8126

      Who has lived here

      Resident Phone Number Additional info
      Melvin J Dixon
      925-292-****
      • Lot: 0.32 acres

        Alternative address: 17860 Deer Hill Rd, Hemet, CA 95467-8126 · 17860 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8126

        • 3 beds
        • 2 baths
        • Lot: 1,933 sqft
        • Built in 1994

        Who has lived here

        Resident Phone Number Additional info
        Armand Arbis
        707-987-****
        Arman Arbise
        707-987-****
        Armand Arbise
        707-987-****
        N Arbis
        951-652-****
        A Ciocatto
        707-355-****

          Facts

          Parking: 0 space

          Alternative address: 17881 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8126

            Who has lived here

            Resident Phone Number Additional info
            Rochelle Susan Winston
            707-987-****

            Alternative address: 17895 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8126

            • 3 beds
            • 2 baths
            • Lot: 1,952 sqft
            • Built in 1990
            Sold $285,000

            Who has lived here

            Resident Phone Number Additional info
            Martin A Winston
            707-987-****
            Residential status:
            Homeowner
            Rochelle S Winston Age: 78
            707-987-****
            Residential status:
            Homeowner
            Job:
            Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations

            Alternative address: 17909 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8129

              Who has lived here

              Resident Phone Number Additional info
              John Larkin

                Alternative address: 17930 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Vl Lk, CA 95467-8128 · 17930 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8128

                • 3 beds
                • 2 baths
                • Lot: 1,531 sqft
                • Built in 2002

                Facts

                Parking: Garage

                Who has lived here

                Resident Phone Number Additional info
                Pauline Brown
                707-987-****
                Residential status:
                Homeowner
                Job:
                Homemaker
                Scott M Brown Age: 78
                707-987-****

                Alternative address: 17937 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8129

                • 3 beds
                • 1 bath
                • Lot: 10,018 sqft
                • Built in 1980

                Facts

                Lot size: 10,018 sqft

                Who has lived here

                Resident Phone Number Additional info
                Richard Foxworthy
                Todd A Robinson Age: 61
                707-987-****
                Mark Russell
                Darlene T Spencer

                Alternative address: 17944 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8128

                • 3 beds
                • 2 baths
                • Lot: 0.45 acres
                • Built in 2006

                Facts

                Lot size: 0.45 acres

                Parking: ATTACHED

                Who has lived here

                Resident Phone Number Additional info
                Arthur L Pritchard
                707-987-****

                Alternative address: 17958 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Vl Lk, CA 95467-8128 · 17958 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8128

                • 4 beds
                • 3 baths
                • 2,202 sqft
                • Built in 1992

                Facts

                Lot size: 0.37 acres

                17958 Deer Hill Rd, Middletown, CA 95467-8128
                Sold $323,000

                Who has lived here

                Resident Phone Number Additional info
                707-889-****
                Industry:
                Computer Repair
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                James Christenson Age: 55
                Job:
                Homemaker
                Nanette R Christenson Age: 54
                John G Larkin Age: 80
                Art Preusser Age: 39
                707-987-****
                Residential status:
                Homeowner
                Job:
                Professional/Technical

                Alternative address: 17968 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8128

                Who has lived here

                Resident Phone Number Additional info
                Jennifer Preusser

                Alternative address: 17972 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Vl Lk, CA 95467-8128 · 17972 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8128

                • 3 beds
                • 2 baths
                • 1,374 sqft
                • Built in 1987

                Facts

                Parking: 440 sqft

                Who has lived here

                Resident Phone Number Additional info
                Industry:
                Nonclassifiable Establishments
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                Bonna R Bradford Age: 89
                Lothrop B Bradford Age: 93
                Lauren G Lex Age: 33
                707-987-****
                Residential status:
                Homeowner
                Teresa Lex Age: 69
                707-987-****
                Residential status:
                Homeowner

                Alternative address: 17979 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8115

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  William E Donahue

                  Alternative address: 17986 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Vl Lk, CA 95467-8128 · 17986 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8128

                  • 3 beds
                  • 2 baths
                  • Lot: 0.35 acres
                  • Built in 2002

                  Facts

                  Lot size: 0.35 acres

                  Stories: 1

                  Parking: Garage

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  707-523-****
                  707-987-****
                  Specialties:
                  AntsBeesCockroachesDamage & RepairsFleas & TicksFliesLawn & GardensRodentsSpiderstermitesTreesWeedsYellow Jackets
                  Categories:
                  Professional Services
                  Industry:
                  Disinfecting/Pest Services
                  Type of Business:
                  Articles of Incorporation
                  Site:
                  armedforcepest.com
                  armed-force.com
                  See Details
                  John N Pape Age: 63
                  707-987-****
                  Organization:
                  Armed Force Pest Control
                  Title:
                  Owner
                  Industry:
                  Exterminating & Pest Control Svcs
                  Site:
                  armed-force.com
                  Steven Fenton Age: 50
                  Job:
                  Homemaker
                  Brandy A Roy Age: 55
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner
                  Russell W Roy
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner

                  Alternative address: 17993 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8115

                  • 3 beds
                  • 1 bath
                  • Lot: 0.44 acres
                  • Built in 2005

                  Facts

                  Lot size: 0.44 acres

                  Rooms: 10

                  Parking: Garage

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  Kathleen Wiedinmyer
                  707-987-****
                  Job:
                  Craftsman/Blue Collar
                  Kathy Wiedinmyer
                  707-987-****
                  Timothy Wiedinmyer Age: 70
                  707-396-****
                  Job:
                  Clerical/White Collar
                  Jason Woolf
                  707-355-****

                  Alternative address: 18007 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8131

                  • 3 beds
                  • 2.5 baths
                  • 1,892 sqft
                  • Built in 2001

                  Facts

                  Parking: Garage

                  18007 Deer Hill Rd, Middletown, CA 95467-8131
                  For Sale $425,000

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  Gloria G Bladel
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner
                  Vernon A Bladel Age: 91
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner

                  Alternative address: 18014 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8130

                  • 2 beds
                  • 2 baths
                  • Lot: 0.3 acres

                  Facts

                  Lot size: 0.3 acres

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  Kevin Farey
                  707-987-****
                  Lisa Ann Gibbs
                  707-987-****
                  Sean A Gibbs Age: 59
                  C Macdonell
                  707-987-****
                  S Macdonell
                  707-987-****

                  Alternative address: 18021 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8131

                  • 3 beds
                  • 3 baths
                  • Lot: 9,147 sqft
                  • Built in 2005

                  Facts

                  Lot size: 9,147 sqft

                  Stories: 1

                  Parking: Garage

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  Linda Bissell
                  707-809-****
                  Freda Durgin
                  Michael Durgin Age: 73
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner
                  Job:
                  Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations
                  Deborah D Frontin
                  Leevon Von Lim
                  916-587-****

                  Alternative address: 18028 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8130 · 18028 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Vl Lk, CA 95467-8130

                  • 3 beds
                  • 2 baths
                  • Lot: 2,256 sqft

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  Kenneth Davis
                  Job:
                  Craftsman/Blue Collar
                  Bryan F Pullman Age: 67
                  707-987-****
                  Gayle Pullman Age: 67
                  707-987-****
                  Jacob T Tucker Age: 29
                  707-987-****
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner
                  Mitchell N Tucker Age: 60
                  707-987-****

                  Alternative address: 18035 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Vl Lk, CA 95467-8131 · 18035 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8131

                  • 3 beds
                  • 3 baths
                  • Lot: 0.62 acres
                  • Built in 1983

                  Facts

                  Lot size: 0.62 acres

                  Parking: Garage

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  707-987-****
                  SIC:
                  8742 - Management Consulting Services
                  See Details
                  Michael C Blair
                  707-987-****
                  Organization:
                  Blair, Michael
                  Title:
                  Administrator
                  B Antonich
                  707-987-****
                  Barbara E Polley Age: 74
                  707-987-****
                  Judy M Blair Age: 67

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  Judy M Blair
                  707-987-****
                  Michael C Blair
                  707-987-****

                  Alternative address: 18042 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8130

                  • 3 beds
                  • 2 baths
                  • Lot: 1,554 sqft
                  • Built in 1991

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  Ron Childress
                  707-987-****
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner
                  Ronald R Childress
                  707-987-****
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner
                  Job:
                  Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations
                  Joseph F Parma Age: 71

                  Alternative address: 18049 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Vl Lk, CA 95467-8131 · 18049 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8131

                  • 3 beds
                  • 2 baths
                  • Lot: 1,905 sqft
                  • Built in 1987

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  Elizabeth Cantrell
                  626-744-****
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner
                  Job:
                  Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations
                  Gary A Cantrell Age: 67
                  707-987-****
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner
                  Job:
                  Professional/Technical
                  Lauren A Cantrell Age: 62
                  707-987-****
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner
                  J Cantrell
                  707-585-****
                  Kathryn Cantrell

                  Alternative address: 18056 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8130

                  • 3 beds
                  • 2 baths
                  • Lot: 0.56 acres
                  • Built in 1990

                  Facts

                  Lot size: 0.56 acres

                  Parking: Garage - Attached, 2 spaces

                  Sold $365,000

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  Jennifer Begun
                  707-987-****
                  Karen E Prothro
                  707-635-****

                    Alternative address: 18091 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8123

                    • 3 beds
                    • 3 baths
                    • Lot: 8,276 sqft
                    • Built in 2005

                    Facts

                    Lot size: 8,276 sqft

                    Stories: 1

                    Parking: Garage

                    Who has lived here

                    Resident Phone Number Additional info
                    Michael Crowder
                    Residential status:
                    Homeowner
                    Job:
                    Professional/Technical
                    Thomas C Norton

                      Alternative address: 18112 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8132

                      • 3 beds
                      • 2 baths
                      • Lot: 1,576 sqft
                      • Built in 2007

                      Facts

                      Parking: Garage

                      Who has lived here

                      Resident Phone Number Additional info
                      Destry Henderson
                      Residential status:
                      Homeowner
                      Job:
                      Craftsman/Blue Collar
                      Tiffany Henderson Age: 40
                      Residential status:
                      Homeowner
                      Job:
                      Student

                      Alternative address: 18119 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8132

                        Who has lived here

                        Resident Phone Number Additional info
                        William Tod Henry
                        925-937-****
                        Marie I Raulston Age: 89

                        Alternative address: 18126 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8132

                        • 3 beds
                        • 2 baths
                        • Lot: 0.31 acres
                        • Built in 2006

                        Facts

                        Lot size: 0.31 acres

                        Stories: 1

                        Parking: Garage

                        Who has lived here

                        Resident Phone Number Additional info
                        Diana Elaine Rich
                        415-454-****
                        Diana Wyatt
                        415-454-****
                        Job:
                        Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations
                        Stephen Wyatt
                        415-454-****
                        Job:
                        Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations

                        Alternative address: 18133 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Vl Lk, CA 95467-8132

                        • 2 beds
                        • 2 baths
                        • Lot: 0.32 acres
                        • Built in 1984

                        Facts

                        Lot size: 0.32 acres

                        Stories: 0

                        Who has lived here

                        Resident Phone Number Additional info
                        Douglas L Hudson
                        707-809-****
                        Residential status:
                        Homeowner

                        Alternative address: 18140 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8132

                        • 3 beds
                        • 2 baths
                        • Lot: 1,268 sqft
                        • Built in 1990

                        Who has lived here

                        Resident Phone Number Additional info
                        Johnny Dunlop
                        707-987-****
                        Colleen Beth Dunn
                        707-987-****
                        Gerald Flint
                        707-987-****
                        John Dunn
                        707-480-****
                        Johnny Dunn Age: 68
                        707-480-****
                        Residential status:
                        Homeowner
                        Job:
                        Machine Operators, Assemblers, and Inspectors Occupations

                        Alternative address: 18147 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8132

                        • 4 beds
                        • 2 baths
                        • 2,281 sqft
                        • Built in 2005

                        Facts

                        Lot size: 0.25 acres

                        Parking: Garage

                        Who has lived here

                        Resident Phone Number Additional info
                        Industry:
                        Wine Compliance Services
                        Type of Business:
                        Domestic
                        See Details
                        David Jones
                        707-987-****
                        Linda Jones
                        707-987-****

                        Alternative address: 18154 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Vl Lk, CA 95467-8132 · 18154 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8132

                        • 3 beds
                        • 2 baths
                        • Lot: 1,985 sqft
                        • Built in 1991

                        Who has lived here

                        Resident Phone Number Additional info
                        Daniel R Dimitt
                        707-987-****
                        Mary J Dimitt Age: 64
                        707-987-****
                        Dustin C Farres Age: 53
                        707-987-****
                        Residential status:
                        Homeowner
                        Jodi M Farres Age: 56
                        707-987-****
                        Residential status:
                        Homeowner
                        Job:
                        Homemaker
                        Jodl Farres
                        707-987-****

                        Alternative address: 18161 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8132

                        • 4 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        • 2,633 sqft
                        • Built in 2005

                        Facts

                        Lot size: 0.25 acres

                        Parking: Garage

                        Who has lived here

                        Resident Phone Number Additional info
                        Industry:
                        Dentist's OfficeNonclassifiable EstablishmentsOffices and Clinics of Dentists
                        See Details
                        Tiffany Miranda
                        707-987-****

                        Alternative address: 18168 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8132

                        • 3 beds
                        • 2 baths
                        • Lot: 1,984 sqft
                        • Built in 1992

                        Who has lived here

                        Resident Phone Number Additional info
                        Industry:
                        Photo Portrait Studio
                        See Details
                        Sabrina Lee Age: 67
                        626-755-****
                        Residential status:
                        Homeowner
                        Job:
                        Executive, Administrative, and Managerial Occupations
                        Terry Lee
                        626-755-****
                        Residential status:
                        Homeowner
                        Job:
                        Executive, Administrative, and Managerial Occupations
                        Sabrina Rogers Age: 67
                        Residential status:
                        Homeowner
                        Job:
                        Clerical/White Collar
                        Terry A Rogers Age: 57
                        707-987-****
                        Residential status:
                        Homeowner

                          Alternative address: 18182 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8132

                          • 3 beds
                          • 2 baths
                          • Lot: 1,395 sqft
                          • Built in 2006

                          Facts

                          Parking: Garage

                          Who has lived here

                          Resident Phone Number Additional info
                          Amber L Aispuro
                          707-987-****
                          Castro J Vega
                          707-987-****

                            Alternative address: 18196 Deer Hill Rd, Hidden Valley Lake, CA 95467-8132

                            • 2 beds
                            • 2 baths
                            • Lot: 864 sqft
                            • Built in 1971

                            Who has lived here

                            Resident Phone Number Additional info
                            Industry:
                            Nonclassifiable Establishments
                            See Details
                            Linda Knox Age: 72
                            Job:
                            Clerical/White Collar
                            David M Lebrun Age: 68
                            707-987-****
                            Diane Lebrun Age: 62
                            707-987-****
                            P Murasko
                            707-355-****

                            Market Activities

                            To date, we have no information about market activities in 2025
                            May 2023 Sold
                            18091 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 2,120 sqft
                            • 3 beds
                            • 3 baths
                            Apr 2023 Sold
                            18091 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 2,120 sqft
                            • 3 beds
                            • 3 baths
                            Feb 2023 Sold
                            18091 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 2,120 sqft
                            • 3 beds
                            • 3 baths
                            Jun 2022 Sold
                            17804 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 1,898 sqft
                            • 3 beds
                            • 3 baths
                            Feb 2022 Sold
                            18161 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 2,492 sqft
                            • 4 beds
                            • 3 baths
                            Aug 2021 Sold
                            17804 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 1,898 sqft
                            • 3 beds
                            • 3 baths
                            Aug 2021 Sold
                            17804 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 1,898 sqft
                            • 3 beds
                            • 3 baths
                            Jul 2021 Sold
                            17958 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 2,202 sqft
                            • 4 beds
                            • 3 baths
                            Jul 2021 Sold
                            17804 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 1,898 sqft
                            • 3 beds
                            • 3 baths
                            May 2021 Sold
                            17958 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 2,202 sqft
                            • 4 beds
                            • 3 baths
                            Mar 2021 Sold
                            17895 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 1,952 sqft
                            • 3 beds
                            • 2 baths
                            Mar 2021 Listed for sale
                            18007 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 1,892 sqft
                            • 3 beds
                            • 3 baths
                            Mar 2021 Sold
                            18056 Deer Hill Rd
                            Price history :
                            • Single Family
                            • 1,734 sqft
                            • 3 beds
                            • 2 baths

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                            Fire Incident History

                            To date, we have no information about fire incidents in 2025
                            20 Nov 2006 Mobile property (vehicle) fire, other
                            Heat Source —
                            Heat from powered equipment, other

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                            House prices on 17804-18196 Deer Hill Rd, Middletown CA

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