Arborside, Irvine CA

39 properties and 128 residents found on Arborside, Irvine, CA. Find out more information with SpamRoom Address Directory.


Residents

    Who has lived here

    Resident Phone Number Additional info
    Jacquelyn Goldsmith
    352-596-****
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Job:
    Production Occupations
    Lawrence Goldsmith
    352-596-****
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Job:
    Production Occupations
    Leslie D Sayre Age: 67
    949-387-****
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Scott Sayre
    949-387-****
    • 3 beds
    • 2.5 baths
    • 1,500 sqft
    • Built in 2003
    Sold $1,699,000

    Who has lived here

    Resident Phone Number Additional info
    State Group, LLC
    Industry:
    Restaurant ConsultingManagement Consulting Services
    Type of Business:
    Domestic
    Gregory A Bloom
    Georgina B Jacobson
    949-723-****
    Jill A Lipps
    Amy Jessica Tuliper
    949-502-****
    • 3 beds
    • 3 baths
    • 1,770 sqft
    • Built in 2004
    Sold $1,230,000

    Who has lived here

    Resident Phone Number Additional info
    Bryan Hakala
    Job:
    Clerical/White Collar
    Marisa Hakala Age: 47
    Job:
    Professional/Technical
    Monir Jalili
    Tarla A Makaeff Age: 92
    949-292-****
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Job:
    Retired
    • 3 beds
    • 3 baths
    • 1,545 sqft
    • Built in 2003

    Facts

    Stories: 2

    Parking: Garage, 2 spaces

    Who has lived here

    Resident Phone Number Additional info
    Maureen Barnett
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Rial Barnett Age: 60
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Job:
    Financial Professional
    Kim Birch
    949-737-****
    Kimberly A Birch Age: 55
    949-737-****
    Jami Charles Ware Age: 58
    • 3 beds
    • 3 baths
    • 1,640 sqft
    • Built in 2004

    Facts

    Parking: 2 spaces

    Sold $1,179,000

    Who has lived here

    Resident Phone Number Additional info
    CHOIJANG, INC
    Type of Business:
    Articles of Incorporation
    Seung K Jang Age: 53
    949-336-****
    • 3 beds
    • 2.5 baths
    • 1,570 sqft
    • Built in 2003

    Who has lived here

    Resident Phone Number Additional info
    Stephanie Ayres
    Job:
    Building and Grounds Cleaning and Maintenance Occupations
    Lisa A Flora Age: 60
    • 3 beds
    • 2.5 baths
    • 1,500 sqft
    • Built in 2003

    Facts

    Rooms: 6

    Stories: 2

    Parking: Garage - Attached, 2 spaces

    Who has lived here

    Resident Phone Number Additional info
    O.C. SINGLES FOR CHRIST
    Type of Business:
    Articles of Incorporation
    Michelle M Jamieson
    • 3 beds
    • 2.5 baths
    • 1,548 sqft
    • Built in 2003

    Who has lived here

    Resident Phone Number Additional info
    Carmen Muldowney
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Steven Muldowney Age: 61
    Residential status:
    Homeowner
    Job:
    Professional/Technical
    Sara G Payge
    949-725-****
    G Sara
    949-725-****
    Hooman Rezaei
    Job:
    Executive, Administrative, and Managerial Occupations
    • 3 beds
    • 3 baths
    • 1,780 sqft
    • Built in 2004

    Facts

    Lot size: 2,221 sqft

    Stories: 2

    Parking: Garage, 2 spaces

    Who has lived here

    Resident Phone Number Additional info
    James D Hartung

      Who has lived here

      Resident Phone Number Additional info
      P Chuang
      Pearl Chuang Age: 71
      949-725-****
      Residential status:
      Homeowner
      Alex Ribakoff
      949-786-****
      Alexander Z Ribakoff
      949-786-****
      Shellby B Ribakoff Age: 77
      949-786-****
      • 3 beds
      • 3 baths
      • 1,665 sqft
      • Built in 2004

      Facts

      Stories: 2

      Parking: Garage - Attached, 2 spaces

      Who has lived here

      Resident Phone Number Additional info
      3000 Research Drive IV, LLC
      Type of Business:
      Domestic Limited Liability Company (LLC)
      Debra A Modzeleski Age: 84
      Lillian C Modzeleski Age: 84
      Neil R Modzeleski Age: 55
      Robert E Modzeleski Age: 84

        Who has lived here

        Resident Phone Number Additional info
        Alex Z Ribakoff
        949-854-****
        Residential status:
        Homeowner
        Job:
        Professional/Technical
        Alexander Z Ribakoff Age: 71
        949-854-****
        Isaac Ribakoff Age: 37
        949-854-****
        Residential status:
        Homeowner
        Jacob A Ribakoff
        949-854-****
        Shellby B Ribakoff Age: 77
        949-854-****
        Residential status:
        Homeowner
        • 3 beds
        • 2.5 baths
        • 1,545 sqft
        • Built in 2002

        Who has lived here

        Resident Phone Number Additional info
        Ciel L Fitzpatrick
        949-509-****
        Maureen A Fitzpatrick Age: 70
        949-509-****

          Who has lived here

          Resident Phone Number Additional info
          William Holburn
          Job:
          Clerical/White Collar
          Haleema Shaikley
          Residential status:
          Homeowner
          Job:
          Professional/Technical
          Karim A Shaikley
          Residential status:
          Homeowner
          Job:
          Professional/Technical
          • 3 beds
          • 3 baths
          • 1,770 sqft
          • Built in 2003

          Facts

          Lot size: 3,005 sqft

          Parking: Garage - Attached, 2 spaces

          Who has lived here

          Resident Phone Number Additional info
          Daniel L Corbin
          949-733-****
          Edward R Hollander
          949-854-****
          • 3 beds
          • 2.5 baths
          • 1,545 sqft
          • Built in 2004

          Facts

          Stories: 2

          Who has lived here

          Resident Phone Number Additional info
          Tot Foot Stop
          Industry:
          Child Day Care ServicesNonclassifiable Establishments
          Michael J Kirby
          Todd R Kirby
          Marianne Rabold
          Job:
          Retired

            Who has lived here

            Resident Phone Number Additional info
            Yousef Barar
            949-854-****
            • 4 beds
            • 3 baths
            • Lot: 1,850 sqft
            Sold $1,540,000

            Who has lived here

            Resident Phone Number Additional info
            ALBERT ALOIAN DDS, PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION
            Industry:
            Dentist's Office
            Type of Business:
            Articles of Incorporation
            Shmurak Dental Consulting
            Type of Business:
            Articles of Incorporation
            Kerrie A Allen
            714-376-****
            Traci Blair
            949-679-****
            949-529-****
            949-861-****
            Organization:
            HJM Properties, Inc.
            Specialties:
            Buyer's AgentListing Agent
            Kerrie A Doughty Age: 61
            • 3 beds
            • 3 baths
            • Lot: 1,701 sqft
            42 Arborside, Irvine, CA 92603-0111
            Sold $1,535,625

            Who has lived here

            Resident Phone Number Additional info
            Bob Greenfield
            949-509-****
            Robert D Greenfield
            949-509-****

              Who has lived here

              Resident Phone Number Additional info
              Jack P Dearmond
              949-387-****
              Wendy Ehlers
              • 3 beds
              • 2.5 baths
              • 1,500 sqft
              • Built in 2004

              Facts

              Parking: Garage - Attached

              Who has lived here

              Resident Phone Number Additional info
              STUCKPIXEL, INC
              Industry:
              Business Services at Non-Commercial Site
              Type of Business:
              Articles of Incorporation
              Barbara S Chu
              949-737-****
              Simon C Chu Age: 41
              949-737-****
              Chihhao Chu
              Jeffrey Chu
              • 3 beds
              • 2.5 baths
              • 1,770 sqft
              • Built in 2003

              Who has lived here

              Resident Phone Number Additional info
              Healing & Transformation, Inc
              Type of Business:
              Articles of Incorporation
              Christopher E Deal
              949-854-****
              Christina Yu
              • 3 beds
              • 2.5 baths
              • 1,665 sqft
              • Built in 2003

              Facts

              Lot size: 2,482 sqft

              Parking: Garage - Attached, 2 spaces

              Who has lived here

              Resident Phone Number Additional info
              Alice Z Gheen
              Gregory O Gheen Age: 66
              Rong Zeng Age: 52
              Job:
              Professional/Technical
              • 3 beds
              • 2.5 baths
              • 1,665 sqft
              • Built in 2003

              Facts

              Stories: 2

              Parking: Garage - Attached, 2 spaces

              Who has lived here

              Resident Phone Number Additional info
              Liv Games
              Specialties:
              Mobile Game DevelopmentRole Playing GamesStrategy GamesGame Design
              Industry:
              Computer GamesNonclassifiable Establishments
              Type of Business:
              Articles of Incorporation
              Site:
              livgames.com
              S.H. Services, LLC
              Industry:
              Technical ConsultingServices-Misc
              Type of Business:
              Domestic
              Leonel P Liniger Age: 49
              949-509-****
              Natasha Liniger
              949-509-****
              Tasha Liniger
              949-509-****
              • 3 beds
              • 2.5 baths
              • 1,545 sqft
              • Built in 2003
              Sold $1,070,000

              Who has lived here

              Resident Phone Number Additional info
              Linda Cacciatori
              Jacque R Gates Age: 84
              Adam Hunt Age: 44
              562-858-****
              Philip T Laulhere
              Tracy Laulhere
              • 3 beds
              • 2.5 baths
              • 1,770 sqft
              • Built in 2004
              Sold $1,249,000

              Who has lived here

              Resident Phone Number Additional info
              Adnan Qamar
              Job:
              Administration/Managerial

                Who has lived here

                Resident Phone Number Additional info
                John S Fong
                949-929-****
                Tsang P Fong

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  Chander Goyal
                  949-653-****
                  Jaleh Meftah
                  Tehrandoor Meftah
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner
                  Job:
                  Professional/Technical
                  • 3 beds
                  • 3 baths
                  • 1,775 sqft
                  • Built in 2004

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  Grantham Assoc
                  949-679-****
                  Industry:
                  Business Services
                  Hagen Grantham
                  949-679-****
                  Lauren Grantham
                  949-679-****
                  Barbara Hunt Age: 64
                  714-742-****
                  Residential status:
                  Homeowner
                  Job:
                  Clerical/White Collar
                  • 3 beds
                  • 3 baths
                  • 1,548 sqft
                  • Built in 2004

                  Facts

                  Rooms: 3

                  Stories: 2

                  Parking: Garage - Attached, 0 space

                  57 Arborside, Irvine, CA 92603-0117
                  For Sale $1,649,000

                  Who has lived here

                  Resident Phone Number Additional info
                  A.M. WILLIS ENTERPRISES, INC
                  Industry:
                  Business Consulting ServicesBusiness Services
                  Type of Business:
                  Articles of Incorporation
                  Glenn P Plunkett
                  949-387-****
                  Santos M Plunkett
                  949-387-****
                  Brian Willis Age: 46
                  Job:
                  Craftsman/Blue Collar

                    Who has lived here

                    Resident Phone Number Additional info
                    A. O. Rutherford Limited Partnership
                    Type of Business:
                    Domestic
                    Bruce C Covington Age: 79
                    Residential status:
                    Homeowner
                    Garrett R Covington Age: 55
                    Linda P Covington Age: 74
                    Residential status:
                    Homeowner
                    Job:
                    Clerical/White Collar
                    • 3 beds
                    • 2 baths
                    • Lot: 1,701 sqft
                    Sold $1,068,000

                    Who has lived here

                    Resident Phone Number Additional info
                    THE WISELY CORPORATION
                    Industry:
                    Nonclassifiable Establishments
                    Type of Business:
                    Articles of Incorporation
                    Brian E Wisely Age: 60
                    949-872-****
                    Residential status:
                    Homeowner
                    Nadene Wisely Age: 52
                    Residential status:
                    Homeowner
                    Job:
                    Professional/Technical
                    • 3 beds
                    • 2 baths
                    • 1,545 sqft
                    • Built in 2004

                    Who has lived here

                    Resident Phone Number Additional info
                    Andrea L Evans
                    Donna L Grosso Age: 78
                    Karl Gulledge
                    Michelle M Milford
                    • 3 beds
                    • 2.5 baths
                    • 1,770 sqft
                    • Built in 2004

                    Who has lived here

                    Resident Phone Number Additional info
                    S C & D International Tec Inc
                    714-743-****
                    Industry:
                    Business Consulting Services
                    SC & D INTERNATIONAL TEC, INC
                    Type of Business:
                    Articles of Incorporation
                    Akiko Yamaguchi
                    Residential status:
                    Homeowner
                    Job:
                    Professional/Technical
                    Masao M Yamaguchi Age: 77
                    Residential status:
                    Homeowner
                    Job:
                    Professional/Technical

                      Who has lived here

                      Resident Phone Number Additional info
                      Lysa Horan
                      Charles A Pernice Age: 66
                      949-679-****
                      Residential status:
                      Homeowner
                      Job:
                      Legal Professional
                      • 3 beds
                      • 3 baths
                      • 1,500 sqft
                      • Built in 2004

                      Facts

                      Parking: Garage - Attached

                      Who has lived here

                      Resident Phone Number Additional info
                      Spencer Seyb
                      949-872-****
                      • 3 beds
                      • 3 baths
                      • Lot: 1,913 sqft
                      65 Arborside, Irvine, CA 92603-0117
                      Sold $1,925,000

                      Who has lived here

                      Resident Phone Number Additional info
                      Fadel Corporation
                      Industry:
                      Business Services at Non-Commercial Site
                      WINSTON'S ISLAND JEWELERS, INC
                      Type of Business:
                      Articles of Incorporation
                      Filiz Demir Age: 53
                      949-387-****
                      Finiz Demir
                      949-387-****
                      Kemal Demir Age: 64
                      949-387-****
                      • 3 beds
                      • 2.5 baths
                      • 1,700 sqft
                      • Built in 2004

                      Who has lived here

                      Resident Phone Number Additional info
                      FINITE FINANCIAL
                      Type of Business:
                      Articles of Incorporation
                      KLEIS, INC
                      Industry:
                      Nonclassifiable Establishments
                      Type of Business:
                      Articles of Incorporation
                      Hye Baik
                      Hyejin Baik
                      949-509-****
                      Alexander Ravski Age: 37
                      Job:
                      Clerical/White Collar

                        Who has lived here

                        Resident Phone Number Additional info
                        Kothari Leadership Enterprises, LLC
                        Industry:
                        ConsultingBusiness Services
                        Type of Business:
                        Domestic
                        Amit R Kothari
                        949-679-****

                        Market Activities

                        To date, we have no information about market activities in 2025
                        Jan 2024 Sold
                        12 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,548 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        Jan 2024 Listed for sale
                        12 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,548 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        Mar 2023 Sold
                        42 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,701 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        Feb 2023 Sold
                        42 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,701 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        Jan 2023 Recent Rent
                        24 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,701 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        Jan 2023 Sold
                        42 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,701 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        Nov 2022 Listed for sale
                        57 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,628 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        Feb 2022 Sold
                        65 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,913 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        Aug 2021 Sold
                        65 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,913 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        Jun 2021 Sold
                        40 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Townhouse
                        • 1,850 sqft
                        • 4 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        Jun 2021 Sold
                        40 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Townhouse
                        • 1,850 sqft
                        • 4 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        Mar 2021 Sold
                        16 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,701 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 3 baths
                        Sep 2018 Sold
                        52 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        Nov 2016 Recent Rent
                        60 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • 1628 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 2.5 baths

                        Great Location in Turtle Ridge. Tumbled travertine floors, Built-in appliances, a fireplace....

                        Jul 2016 Sold
                        35 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Single-Family Home
                        • 1,850 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 2 baths
                        Jul 2016 Sold
                        59 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,701 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 2 baths
                        Jul 2016 Sold
                        53 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,850 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 2 baths
                        Jun 2016 Sold
                        53 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,850 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 2 baths
                        May 2016 Sold
                        59 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • Condo
                        • 1,701 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 2 baths
                        Apr 2016 Recent Rent
                        36 Arborside
                        Price history :
                        • 1545 sqft
                        • 3 beds
                        • 2.5 baths

                        UPDATE: 3/22/16 This home has been newly remolded. The owners have beautifully laid down...

                        Building Permits

                        To date, we have no information about building permits in 2025
                        Jan 14, 2016
                        18 Arborside
                        Description: Replace water heater. same size, same location
                        • Fee: $48.00 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: Stephanie Ayres
                        • Parcel #: 93046683
                        • Permit #: 00659725-WH
                        Sep 13, 2005
                        25 Arborside
                        Description: Gas line for bbq
                        • Fee: $45.00 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: Shelby Ribakoff
                        • Parcel #: 47841109
                        • Permit #: 00401169-MISR
                        Jun 14, 2005
                        19 Arborside
                        Description: Open lattice patio cover gas and electric for backyard bbq and fireplace
                        • Valuation: $88,600
                        • Fee: $146.20 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: Lori Jamieson
                        • Parcel #: 47841109
                        • Permit #: 00392570-PCV
                        Mar 21, 2005
                        67 Arborside
                        Description: Gas for bbq and firepit lawn sprinklers minor electrical
                        • Fee: $49.43 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: Alexander Ravski
                        • Permit #: 00385860-MISR
                        Mar 9, 2005
                        71 Arborside
                        Description: Install lattice patio cover water fountain bbq etc.
                        • Valuation: $80,400
                        • Fee: $136.98 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: Amit Kothari
                        • Permit #: 00385077-PCV
                        Dec 14, 2004
                        58 Arborside
                        Description: Gas and electric for backyard firepit and fountain
                        • Fee: $45.00 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: Bruce Covington
                        • Parcel #: 47841126
                        • Permit #: 00379700-MISR
                        Nov 18, 2004
                        59 Arborside
                        Description: Open lattice patio cover gasline electrical
                        • Valuation: $198,400
                        • Fee: $151.61 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: Brian Wisely
                        • Parcel #: 47841126
                        • Permit #: 00378143-PCV
                        Oct 15, 2004
                        12 Arborside
                        Description: New fire sprinklers: 23 heads. tract # 16273. arborel phase 12 unit 008.
                        • Fee: $85.40 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: California Pacific Homes
                        • Parcel #: 47841129
                        • Permit #: 00375857-FSIN
                        Oct 15, 2004
                        14 Arborside
                        Description: New fire sprinklers: 25 heads. tract # 16273. arborel phase 012 unit: 007
                        • Fee: $85.40 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: California Pacific Homes
                        • Parcel #: 47841108
                        • Permit #: 00375867-FSIN
                        Oct 15, 2004
                        15 Arborside
                        Description: New fire sprinklers: 21 heads. plan 2. tract # 16273. arborel phase 12 unit 004
                        • Fee: $85.40 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: California Pacific Homes
                        • Parcel #: 47841108
                        • Permit #: 00375863-FSIN
                        Oct 15, 2004
                        16 Arborside
                        Description: New fire sprinklers: 22 hds. tract 16273. plan 3 unit 010 phase 012
                        • Fee: $85.40 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: California Pacific Homes
                        • Parcel #: 47841108
                        • Permit #: 00375866-FSIN
                        Oct 15, 2004
                        23 Arborside
                        Description: New fire sprinklers: 21 heads. plan 2. tract # 16273. arborel phase 13b unit 002
                        • Fee: $85.40 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: California Pacific Homes
                        • Parcel #: 47841109
                        • Permit #: 00375864-FSIN
                        Oct 15, 2004
                        28 Arborside
                        Description: New fire sprinklers: 23 heads. tract # 16273. arborel phase 13b unit 0016.
                        • Fee: $85.40 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: California Pacific Homes
                        • Parcel #: 47841109
                        • Permit #: 00375858-FSIN
                        Sep 30, 2004
                        65 Arborside
                        Description: Sprinkler system and one electrical outlet
                        • Fee: $45.00 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: Sean Mozayeni
                        • Permit #: 00374824-MISR
                        Sep 9, 2004
                        20 Arborside
                        Description: Convert sales office to garage
                        • Fee: $55.00 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: California Pacific Homes
                        • Parcel #: 47841109
                        • Permit #: 00373092-RBPR
                        Sep 9, 2004
                        22 Arborside
                        Description: Accessible restroom back to garage
                        • Fee: $55.00 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: California Pacific Homes
                        • Parcel #: 47841109
                        • Permit #: 00373094-RBPR
                        Jul 8, 2004
                        51 Arborside
                        Description: Gas lines for od fireplace & bbq; electrical; lawn sprinklers
                        • Fee: $68.83 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: Lionel Winager
                        • Parcel #: 47841129
                        • Permit #: 00368486-MISR
                        Feb 20, 2004
                        54 Arborside
                        Description: New fire sprinklers: 21 hds
                        • Fee: $85.40 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: California Pacific Homes
                        • Parcel #: 47841126
                        • Permit #: 00358290-FSIN
                        Feb 20, 2004
                        56 Arborside
                        Description: New fire sprinklers: 23 hds
                        • Fee: $85.40 paid to City of Irvine, California
                        • Client: California Pacific Homes
                        • Parcel #: 47841126
                        • Permit #: 00358302-FSIN

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                        Incidents registered in Federal Emergency Management Agency

                        To date, we have no information about incidents registered in FEMA in 2025
                        19 Aug 2011 Arcing, shorted electrical equipment
                        Property Use —
                        1 or 2 family dwelling

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